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Interview with Neil Cavuto, Robert F Kennedy Jr., and John Stossel
RFK calls Stossel a liar and Stossel responds, in his own style. RFK explains why it’s OK to control dissenting opinions. RFK also spews a bunch of nonsensical Global climate Crisis gibberish as well.
If you have not guessed my position on this debate I’ll spell it out.
It’s all BS, a scam, a hoax, an excuse for global taxation and global government. Additionally it’s a “Feel Good” cause for liberals to cling to to make them feel important because they can think they are doing something to save the earth from the impending doom brought on by the evil capitalism and President George W. Bush. We all know it’s G. W.’s fault right? It has to be, he was in the oil business!
But I digress, the interview is definitely worth watching to see Stossel debate RFK – and of course to laugh at RFK’s voice which sounds like a rectal exam gone bad.
It’s really kind of funny for a man that sounds like this to call me and other “deniers” (skeptics) traitors.
Don’t forget, much more like this at http://forum.malagent.com – come voice our opinion, yell at me or what ever, just be warned – Idiocy will be ridiculed and mocked, intelligent debate will be welcomed no matter which side of the lunacy you’re on.
More hysteria over the world melting and flooding at an ever increasing pace. If even a quarter of what they say is true I think we would have drown already. For at least 30 years they have been screaming about rising sea levels and drastically increasing temperatures. It’s turned out to be about .7 degrees over the last century.
Whatever, I’m going to go drive aimlessly around town in my Hummer dragging a boat. That ought to make Al Gore angry
Now that Al Gore has been awarded the Nobel Peace prize for his efforts in deceiving the masses – I have decided that gathering large quantities of fuel oil and burning it at all hours strictly to generate CO2 for the atmosphere is a good idea, I think I will get right on that – perhaps I can catch up with the emissions from Gore’s private jet.
And No, Ron Paul or Hillary Clinton can’t fix it either.
19,000 Scientists who disagree with the alarmist views of global warming and a great deal of useful information..
http://www.oism.org/pproject/pproject.htm
Sources for comments & other facts…
1 http://newparty.co.uk/articles/inaccuracies-gore.html
2 http://newparty.co.uk/news/october2007/government-u-turn-in-al-gore-high-court-battle.html
3 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=485336&in_page_id=1811
4
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/10/02/eagore102.xml
5
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/education/article2579030.ece
Some links about Greenland…
Research Reveals Greenland not melting as thought…
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=175b568a-802a-23ad-4c69-9bdd978fb3cd
DNA Reveals Greenland’s lush past
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6276576.stm
Even more…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/23/AR2006052301305_pf.html
Scientists in this section conclude that the observed warming is more likely attributable to natural causes than to human activities.
For full quotes see: http://forum.malagent.com/index.php?topic=7.0
Notes added 12/26/2007
MSNBC reports DNA reveals Greenland once home to forests & insects:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19619301/
So don’t even bring the “Some Viking lied to get people to move there” crap. It’s irrelevant because even if it was a solid sheet of ice at that time there is a lot of evidence that it was in fact very green in the past. Maybe not when there was a viking real estate scam.
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You were the one …
You were the one stating a tiny amount was meaningful, I did not state it was absolutely not. You portrayed this information as being something so damning to skeptics that they refused to confront it. For it to be so damning it must have at least a little more too it.
you stated you had …
you stated you had “the elephant in the room that no global warming denier ever seems to want to account for”
I figured you could provide a little more than one sentence about your elephant.
But as I’ve said, no more here – If you wish to continue you’ll have to do it at forum.malagent[.]com
That is precisely …
That is precisely my point with your answers. It’s your “elephant in the room” that supposedly will prove your point, yet you refuse to elaborate much beyond “you should know it”
I would think that one with a solid position would be more than willing to express it.
OK, I’m done here …
OK, I’m done here with the discussion as soon as I reply to these comments. It’s simply annoying to address some things in YT’s 500 character limit with URLs blocked.
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I’ve never stated a threshold of co2.
And you say I’m …
And you say I’m attempting confusion though numbers.
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The amount is 0.0164% of the entire atmosphere of this planet Which is still under a few hundred parts per million total. That is a significant pat of the issue. Yes the anthropogenic increase seems high, but the overall amount is still very low. So the impact would have to be much greater than other “GHGs” to have the result it’s said to have.
You talked about a …
You talked about a $150,000 prize to someone “proving” (again, to you, and I’m not sure where you devise your tricky standards for burden of proof) threats to climate. But my friend makes that much just by putting a good dollar amount into a stock and watching IT rise 50%. If you put a few thousand in a stock that rises 10%, you’ve still done well. A capitalist should understand geometric growth a little better.
all numbers ‘50′ in …
all numbers ‘50′ in this post refer to 50 per cent. And that number is only increasing. Let’s say it goes up to double (100% increase). And then above. At what point will someone say that the rise is not insignificant. I don’t know what kind of finances malagent balances, but I would not be happy with someone continuing to raise my interest rates this way and then say – “hey, it’s still small!” there’s a breaking point for everything & small numbers can still matter.
You do realize that …
You do realize that at nearly a third, that means that the human contribution is to raise CO2 50%! That is not insignificant. Think about it. A small amount of CO2 is important enough to allow for all plant life on the earth. Yet we’ve increased it by 50! You seem to follow econ. You can’t tell me that someone should raise your interest rates 50 without it being important to you.
you are being …
you are being confusing w/numbers here. you use 0.0164% to say that it is small, but it is still nearly a third of all CO2 – which is what matters. you state that it couldn’t have warmed because of the “small” amount, which means that you confuse amount with contribution. and why this 0.0164 percentage should be below or at a “threshold” that you, personally, assign is not clear to me.
also, look up the …
also, look up the heat capacity of CO2 again (probably by volume, but it shouldn’t matter). compare it to O2 or N2. which are higher? is one significantly lower? there’s your answer for why a “small” amount of something is meaningful. it is more potent. scientists have acknowledged the role of CO2 in regulating temperature for some time. this is not controversial stuff.
re: 2 – I honestly …
re: 2 – I honestly don’t know what the answer is to that. you seem to make arguments based on personal belief – a fallacy. you don’t want to believe that a “tiny” (again, to whom?) amount is meaningful. when a doctor gives a hypothyroid patient 25 micrograms of levothyroxine, are you going to complain that it’s (too) small? you need to adjust to a more topical frame of reference.
it’s simple to you …
it’s simple to you because you get confused. “calling” someone on something doesn’t mean that in using insults she becomes immune to being insulted back. it’s like w/the heat capacity thing. you get confused and draw on other, real or hypothetical relationships that aren’t relevant to that point.
I don’t know if you …
I don’t know if you are right or not, you have thus far refused to provide any clarification on the issue unless it’s just to climb a little higher on your pedestal.
For someone who …
For someone who claims to have a good memory you seem to have forgotten my clarification on your error of the meaning of heat capacity. Even though you then go on to post 4 questions in response. A question for every clarification I provide? Are you taking something out on me that you are upset about from your education? At some point you have to stop assuming that you’re owed teaching sessions for not getting something – especially when you don’t show any appreciation for them.
heat capacity is …
heat capacity is not that special a topic of knowledge. your confusion on it is actually a bit confusing to me. i don’t know why you use subjective terms like “tiny amount” and “extraordinary”. those are personal, subjective terms. in science one has to first be proficient in math and understand that quantities are significant only relative to some other, meaningful quality.
and I have just as …
and I have just as much a right to feel that way as you have a right to feel annoyed about Kennedy and Gore, and about my corrections of your insinuations on what they say.
You were insulting …
You were insulting to others, she calls you on it, you deciding to be insulting again. Pretty simple the way I see it – It may have been yesterday but my memory is not that bad. I also don’t have enough space to list each time you have done that.
and the remaining …
and the remaining comments are obviously just not worth addressing. i’m not going to complain about them being merely clarifications of your insults. i’m just going to ignore them. and your clarification about intelligence and education is irrelevant. it’s your errors and my being right that matters-even though you can’t stand that & turn it back into a personal thing. it’s the generally poor state of education in this country that really bothers me.
“your remarks about …
“your remarks about a high school girl from Kansas”
mmmhm. that was yesterday mal. do try to stay current. and it was in response to some very retarded, attempted insults on her part. do try to put yourself in others’ shoes.
So:
1 What is the …
So:
1 What is the VHC of co2?
2 How does the tiny amount of co2 in the atmosphere have such an (allegedly) profound effect on global mean temp.?
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